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Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings? Photography Guide

Cave in Grant County, New Mexico

  • Bortle 1 sky
  • Sunset azimuth 242°–299°
  • Clearest: October
  • Milky Way Feb–Oct
Photo: NPS/Sean Dupre' · Public domain (NPS)

Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings? — a cave in Grant County, New Mexico — is a classic subject for landscape photographers. It lies in or next to Gila Cliff Dwellings National Monument, so park hours, fees and rules apply. It sits roughly 49 km (30 mi) N of Arenas Valley.

From the National Park Service

Before entering the cave, look up. Do you see the wooden poles overhead? They are the original beams the Mogollon people used to build roofs for their homes.

Look for the small round “plug” in one of the beams. Using dendrochronology (the study of tree ring patterns), archeologists can accurately date the structures you see before you. Most of the rooms were built in the 1280’s, but humans used these caves for shelter much earlier. The heavy soot on the cave’s ceilings, and artifacts that date to earlier cultural groups make it likely that humans temporarily camped in these caves for thousands of years.

Yet only the Mogollon people decided to build within the caves and make this place their home. There must have been very compelling events that caused these people to leave their pueblos and reside in the cliffs.

Text: National Park Service (public domain) — nps.gov.

Nearest town
Arenas Valley
49 km (30 mi)
Sky darkness
Bortle 1
Excellent dark-sky site
Clearest month
October
29% cloud
Milky Way peak
June
6.2 h window
Golden hour (Oct)
6:07 PM
sunset 6:41 PM

Light at Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings?

Live
Sunrise
7:22 AM
Sunset
6:35 PM
Golden hour AM
7:07 AM – 7:56 AM
Golden hour PM
6:01 PM – 6:50 PM
Blue hour AM
6:57 AM – 7:07 AM
Blue hour PM
6:50 PM – 7:00 PM
Full darkness
7:58 PM – 6:00 AM
Moon
Waxing Gibbous · 70%
Moonrise / set
3:32 PM / 1:47 AM
Day length
11h 13m
Sunrise azimuth
102°
Sunset azimuth
258°
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NightTwilightBlue hourGolden hourDaylight

Times in America/Denver. Golden hour = sun −4° to +6°; blue hour = −6° to −4°.

Clouds at sunrise & sunset

NWS

Hourly sky cover from the National Weather Service. 20–60% cloud often gives the most colorful sunrises and sunsets.

Sunrise & sunset directions

At Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings? the sunrise point swings a long way through the year: about 61° (ENE) at the June solstice and 118° (ESE) in late December. Sunset moves from 299° (WNW) in June to 242° (WSW) in December, and the midday sun climbs to 80° in summer but only 33° in winter.

NESW60°30°
June solsticeEquinoxesDecember solstice
DateSunriseAzimuthSunsetAzimuthNoon sunDaylight
March equinox (Mar 20)7:18 AM90° E7:25 PM271° W57°12h 07m
June solstice (Jun 21)6:05 AM61° ENE8:26 PM299° WNW80°14h 21m
September equinox (Sep 22)7:02 AM89° E7:11 PM271° W57°12h 09m
December solstice (Dec 21)7:13 AM118° ESE5:10 PM242° WSW33°9h 57m

Azimuth is measured clockwise from true north (90° = east, 270° = west). Computed for 2026; values change by less than a degree from year to year.

Golden hour & blue hour by month

Caves are lit artificially — show caves have fixed lighting, so a fast lens and high ISO beat flash, which flattens formations.

Month (15th)Blue hour startsSunriseGolden hour endsGolden hour startsSunsetBlue hour endsDaylight
January6:50 AM7:17 AM7:54 AM4:52 PM5:29 PM5:56 PM10h 12m
February6:32 AM6:58 AM7:32 AM5:24 PM5:59 PM6:24 PM11h 01m
March7:00 AM7:24 AM7:57 AM6:49 PM7:21 PM7:46 PM11h 57m
April6:18 AM6:44 AM7:17 AM7:11 PM7:44 PM8:09 PM13h 00m
May5:47 AM6:14 AM6:49 AM7:31 PM8:06 PM8:34 PM13h 52m
June5:35 AM6:04 AM6:41 AM7:48 PM8:25 PM8:53 PM14h 20m
July5:47 AM6:15 AM6:51 AM7:48 PM8:24 PM8:52 PM14h 09m
August6:11 AM6:37 AM7:11 AM7:26 PM8:00 PM8:26 PM13h 24m
September6:33 AM6:57 AM7:30 AM6:48 PM7:21 PM7:46 PM12h 24m
October6:53 AM7:18 AM7:52 AM6:07 PM6:41 PM7:06 PM11h 23m
November6:19 AM6:45 AM7:21 AM4:36 PM5:12 PM5:38 PM10h 27m
December6:43 AM7:10 AM7:48 AM4:30 PM5:08 PM5:36 PM9h 58m

Local time (America/Denver), including daylight saving time. Golden hour runs from about −4° to +6° solar altitude, so the morning golden hour begins during blue hour, before sunrise.

Milky Way & night sky

From Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings?, the Milky Way core is visible in a dark sky from February through October. June gives the longest window (about 6.2 hours on a moonless night), and the core peaks around 28° above the southern horizon. Our light-pollution model puts the sky at about Bortle 1 (excellent dark-sky site), which is excellent for astrophotography.

MonthCore visible (15th)HoursMax altitudeDirection
JanuaryBelow 10° in darkness—1°—
February4:52 AM – 5:32 AM0.717°SE → SE
March3:54 AM – 5:54 AM2.024°SE → SSE
April1:51 AM – 5:11 AM3.328°SE → S
May11:52 PM – 4:32 AM4.728°SE → SSW
June10:07 PM – 4:17 AM6.228°SE → SW
July10:03 PM – 2:53 AM4.828°SSE → SW
August9:30 PM – 12:50 AM3.328°S → SW
September8:44 PM – 10:44 PM2.025°SSW → SW
October8:03 PM – 8:53 PM0.817°SW → SW
NovemberBelow 10° in darkness—3°—
DecemberBelow 10° in darkness—-18°—

Window when the galactic core is at least 10° high during astronomical darkness on the 15th of each month. Pick nights within a few days of the new moon. Plan exact nights with the Milky Way planner.

Estimated sky darkness: 1 Bortle 1 — Excellent dark-sky site. The Milky Way casts faint shadows; zodiacal light and airglow are obvious. Modeled zenith brightness ≈ 21.92 mag/arcsec².

Weather & best season

Long-term NASA satellite data for this area show October as the clearest month (about 29% average cloud cover) and July as the cloudiest (63%). July is the warmest month and December the coldest, which matters for gear, snow access and how long batteries last at night.

Average cloud cover (%)

JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec
JanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec
High °F6569768294981009592847467
Low °F-10-4111823374744321812-1
Precip. (in)1.11.00.70.50.40.53.23.12.21.01.01.1

Monthly climatology for the surrounding 1° grid cell from NASA POWER (MERRA-2). Mountain sites can be colder and cloudier than the cell average.

Photography tips for this cave

  • Never touch formations — skin oils stop their growth.
  • Follow White-nose Syndrome decontamination rules where posted to protect bats.
  • Many show caves restrict tripods on tours; ask in advance or bring a small beanbag.
  • Use manual focus with focus peaking in low light.
  • Scout in daylight if you plan to shoot at night or before sunrise.

Season: Cave interiors stay at a constant temperature year-round; summer tours fill up, so book ahead.

Suggested gear: Fast lens (f/1.8–f/2.8), High-ISO camera, Small beanbag. Work out exposures with the depth of field, ND filter and NPF rule calculators.

Permits, drones & access

National Park Service rules. Under federal law (54 U.S.C. 100905), still photography in National Park Service areas needs a permit only when it (1) takes place where members of the public are not allowed, (2) uses models, sets or props that are not part of the location's natural or cultural resources or administrative facilities, or (3) would cause the park to incur additional administrative costs to monitor the activity. Ordinary visitor and most landscape photography needs no permit. Commercial filming rules are separate and have changed in recent years — confirm current requirements with the park before a paid shoot.

Drones: Launching, landing or operating unmanned aircraft (drones) is prohibited in National Park Service units under a 2014 Superintendent's closure (36 CFR 1.5), except where a park has issued specific written approval. Flying from outside the boundary over park land can also violate park rules and disturb wildlife.

Nearby photo spots

Other locations within 25 km of Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings?, closest first.

Campgrounds nearby (Recreation.gov)

FAQ

When is the best time to photograph Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings??
October has the clearest skies on average; june is best for the milky way core. For light, plan around the first and last hour of sun. Cave interiors stay at a constant temperature year-round; summer tours fill up, so book ahead.
What time is golden hour at Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings??
In October the evening golden hour starts around 6:07 PM and ends after sunset at about 6:41 PM; the morning golden hour lasts until about 7:52 AM. Use the live widget above for exact times on any date.
Where does the sun rise and set at Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings??
Sunrise azimuth ranges from about 61° in June to 118° in December; sunset ranges from 299° to 242°. See the sun-path diagram for the full arc.
Can you see the Milky Way from Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings??
Yes — the core is visible from February to October on moonless nights. The estimated sky quality is Bortle 1 (excellent dark-sky site).
Do you need a permit to photograph at Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings??
Personal still photography needs no permit in National Park Service areas unless you use models, sets or props, enter closed areas, or the shoot creates extra costs for the park. Drones are prohibited.
How far is Cave 3: How Old are the Dwellings? from Arenas Valley?
About 49 km (30 mi) in a straight line; driving distance is usually longer, especially in mountain terrain.

Sources

Location data: National Park Service. Sun, moon and Milky Way times are computed by LWPhoto Atlas for 2026. Climate: NASA POWER. Sky darkness is a population-based estimate (Walker's law), not a measurement. See data sources & licenses.